Chasing The 14: The Kristin Harila Interview

We need role models to show younger girls that it is possible for them to do it too.

You’re very transparent on your social media, telling both sides of the story, not just the successes. For example, you recently calculated your carbon footprint on the project and shared that with your followers. Why is that honesty and accountability so important to you? 

I just like to be open about things. I think it’s good to talk about things that are not so easy to talk about, especially with climate change. Everyone knows that in climbing this or that mountain you have to fly long distances and most of the time with a project like this, you can’t do it without a helicopter. I think it’s better to actually talk about that, to say like, ‘what can we change in the future?’ Because as long as the mountain is there, people will climb. We just have to see if it is possible to climb the mountain in another way, a better way.

And if you’re talking about things like your carbon footprint and acknowledging that, hopefully it’s going to encourage others to think a little bit more about it themselves.

Yeah, and for myself when I started to look at this calculation, I was thinking, ‘ok, these long distance flights have a lot of impact, maybe I can cut one of them’. And I realised that yeah, I actually can. So if we are honest with ourselves and each other we can start to make changes.

We sometimes see images – I think Everest is the one that people will think of immediately – where there are huge quantities of rubbish left behind from the commercial camps, and it’s absolutely mind-blowing that there can be so much in such a seemingly inaccessible place. Do you think mountaineers such as yourself have a responsibility to educate people who aspire to climb these mountains about how they can look after them?

Yeah, for sure. I think we should talk about that too. I actually have a plan to do something with the trash on the mountains after I go for this project again. 

I feel like most of the mountains are very clean though, it’s mainly a problem on Everest and K2 where there are more people. If we are going to clean up, we need to have a fresh start because as long as there is trash there, people will throw more. We need a big clean-up, but we also need regulations. I think we need to involve governments and we need to educate, to help people understand. We have a way to go but it is possible to change.

Do you think there needs to be even greater control over the numbers that are summiting Everest and K2, or are there other solutions?

We know how many people are climbing because we know how many permits are issued and we know the statistics of how many made it to the summits too, so I think we need more regulation for the trash mostly. It’s possible to do that by adding on a tax or seeing how much people are carrying down, we could have some points to check what people actually bring off the mountain. 

We know that things happen in the mountains like people get sick, people die or they’ve been in an accident and actually can’t take their trash down. And many people will think ‘oh that’s not my trash’. So when we can take trash down we should, and everyone needs to agree to do the same, to help each other when those things happen.

I personally believe that women in the outdoors and mountain sports have advantages in our differences from men, in the way that we operate. What advantages do you think women have over men when it comes to high altitude mountaineering?

It’s funny you know, when we were on Everest in 2021, we had five out of five women in the group that summited, and only six of 14 men did the same. All the women came well prepared, both physically and mentally, and the men came like, ‘oh, I can do this’.

 I think we are just as strong as they are, and that was kind-of why I started the project. I think it doesn’t always help that we say that we are just as strong, I think if we can show it, it’s much better. I knew Nims had done it in 2019, and I was thinking the best way to change something is to do something that we can easily compare. People have to see themselves represented to feel that they have a place, and that they are equally capable.

And in terms of kit, you favour the women’s-specific fit Osprey Ariel Pro 65 for your expeditions. How important is a properly fitting pack when it comes to high altitude mountaineering?

I have been using Osprey products for many, many years. For me, they are the best. I need to be able to trust and rely on the kit I take with me to the mountains. The pack is so important, it’s almost like one of the most important products that we have, along with the shoes and down suit and maybe the helmet! We wear it a lot and we are going to carry heavy stuff, so it’s important that it is comfortable.

Who inspires you inside and outside the world of mountaineering and why?

Oh, so many in so many different ways. In mountaineering, Melissa Arnot Reid has been really inspiring for me and for many other women and girls. It’s amazing what she’s done. And also other athletes from other sports like Emily Forsberg and Becks Ferry and if I look a little bit into the history of Norway, we have Cecilie Skog – she climbed Everest in 2002.